Douglas_Knight comments on Are you crazy? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Douglas_Knight 20 July 2009 07:17:19PM *  0 points [-]

What do you mean by people with bipolar disorder being sane?

I could understand the claim that depressed people have accurate beliefs, but are a danger to themselves, but you said bipolar. Manic stages definitely involve false beliefs and overconfidence. Maybe they'd be considered within the sane range if the overconfidence were merely verbalized. Acting on beliefs that lots of people verbalize is often insane.

Or maybe I my parse failed...an individual with bipolar is sometimes sane and sometimes insane. But I'd still call the individual insane.

Comment author: wedrifid 27 July 2009 09:47:26PM 2 points [-]

Or maybe I my parse failed...an individual with bipolar is sometimes sane and sometimes insane. But I'd still call the individual insane.

And I'd call you wrong. I'd also forgive the potential offense both because the symptoms of bipolar II hypomania are less well known and because your err is asserting a definitive relationship when there is merely a significant correlation.

Bipolar II is limited to hypomania and excludes psychosis. It is certainly possible to have bipolar and nevertheless maintain beliefs, actions and verbalisations that are well within the bounds of 'sane'. You may just have periods of having an awful lot of energy, not much sleep, plenty of confidence and rather a lot more sex than usual.

Comment author: CronoDAS 21 July 2009 03:55:49AM 0 points [-]

I stand corrected.