Hm, I've had this ... borrowed ... for a while, and none of the entries seemed to be that interesting, or offer me something that will help me better understand AI or consciousness. And this review/summary confirms that I probably shouldn't place it high on my priority list-- except for the story about the monkey communication (7). That sounds interesting, if a bit sad.
Also, on number 11, did you mean to read all of GEB? Because if so, I'm going to have to reiterate my objection: it's entertaining, but not good rationalist reading, at least not per unit length. You won't learn about the issues of what is evidence, what is knowledge, how do you know when you understand something, etc. And even when it does get to the part about counterfactuals, it doesn't have anywhere near the insight that you can get from even a summary of Pearl's work.
But if you just meant to read "Prelude, Ant Fugue", I'd have to agree; it's an important lesson about how you can look at a collection of organisms on different levels, and thus see the human body as a big colony, with human cells more analogous to ants than to ant cells.
Anyway, the length of your review/summary makes me feel reassured about my planned review and summary of Gary Drescher's Good and Real, which looks like it's going to be pretty long, but definitely not as long as reading the book!
Overall I was disappointed by the Mind's I when I read it a few years ago. I felt that it didn't tell me anything that wasn't already obvious from "getting" reductionism, and I felt that they hype surrounding it oversold it: it didn't actually advance my understanding of consciousness. Thanks for the review; perhaps you could add a shorter summary, because there's no way I am reading all that!
I was disappointed as well. The stories were cute, and several were genuinely clever, but for the most part that was the extent of the depth. The bit in "Where Am I?" where they kept wondering where a person remote-controlling a robotic body and seeing through its senses "really" was? Geh. Semantic nonsense that could've easily been dispelled by tabooing it.
The reflection-less "Fiction" by Robert Nozick wraps the book. The piece at first seems to be narrated by a fictional character: indeed, its first sentence is "I am a fictional character." But this character goes on to assert that the reader, too, is a fictional character, and that this piece one fictional character reads and another narrates is, in fact, a work of non-fiction, as are all works — works within this fictional world in which we live, that is. But who, then, wrote (or currently writes) our world?
I'm reminded of the webcomic One Over Zero.
It is a cracking read, though the quality does dip and dive. No doubt that's just the nature of the beast.
I've read much better treatises on the Chinese Room that have been written since though - H & D seem to attack it in strange and abstract ways in The Mind's I.
And the GEB sections just made me want to pick that up again....
For the record, I didn't get a huge amount out of I Am A Strange Loop, one of Hofstadter's more recent efforts. A bit too travelogue, a bit too 'voyage of personal discovery', though his style of writing is still striking in its own very particular way. Anyone else have a different experience here?
Belatedly: "A Conversation With Einstein's Brain" does not appear in GEB, although it stars the same characters.
When the call to compile a reading list for new rationalists went out, contributor djcb responded by suggesting The Mind's I: Fantasies and Reflections on Self and Soul, a compilation of essays, fictions and excerpts "composed and arranged" by Douglas Hofstadter and Daniel Dennett. Cut to me peering guiltily over my shoulder, my own copy sitting unread on the shelf, peering back.
The book presents Hofstadter and Dennett's co-curation of 27 pieces, some penned by the curators themselves, meant to "reveal" and "make vivid" a set of "perplexities," to wit: "What is the mind?" "Who am I?" "Can mere matter think or feel?" "Where is the soul?" Two immediate concerns arise. First, The Mind's I's 1981 publication date gives it access to the vast majority of what's been thought and said about these questions, but robs it of of any intellectual progress toward the answers made in the nearly three decades since. (This turns out not to be an issue, as most of the answers seem to have drawn no closer in the 1980s, 1990s or 2000s.) Second, those sound suspiciously similar to questions hazily articulated by college freshmen, less amenable to "rational inquiry" than to "dorm furniture and bad weed." They don't quite pass the "man test," an reversal of the fortune cookie "in bed" game: simply tack "man" onto the beginning of each question and see who laughs. "Man, who am I?" "Man, where is the soul?" "Man, can matter think or feel?"
Hofstadter and Dennett's fans know, however, that their analyses rise a cut above, engaged as they are in the admirable struggle to excise the navel-gazing from traditionally navel-gazey topics. The beauty is that they've always accomplished this, together and separately, not by making these issues less exciting but by making them more so. Their clear, stimulating exegeses, explorations and speculations brim with both the enthusiasm of the thrilled neophyte and the levelheadedness of the seasoned surveyor. They even do it humorously, Hofstadter with his zig-zaggy punniness and Dennett with his wit that somehow stays just north of goofy. Thus armed, they've taken on such potentially dangerous topics as whether words and thoughts follow rules, how the animate emerges from the inanimate (Hofstader's rightly celebrated Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid) and consciousness (most of Dennett's career), on the whole safely.
But obviously this is not a "pure" (whatever that might mean) Hofstadter-Dennett joint; rather, their editorial choices compose one half and their personal commentaries — "reflections," they banner them — on the fruits of those choices compose the other. Nearly every selection, whether a short story, article, novel segment or dialogue, leads into an original discussion and evaluation by, as they sign them, D.R.H. and/or D.C.D. They affirm, they contradict, they expand, they question, they veer off in their own directions; the reflections would make a neat little book on the topics at hand by themselves.
Terribly inelegant a strategy as this is, perhaps I'll cover the pieces one-by-one:
As a book for new rationalists, The Mind's I would be best offered as a jolt, a set of mind-stretching exercises that clear the road for the long, incompletable journey to rationality. A reader expecting any sort of instruction on how to think rationally will find a dry well, but that's not the point; these 27 pieces and their commentaries illustrate that it's possible in the first place to do some thinking in the borderlands of such everyday concepts like as brain, mind, soul, self, I, you, intelligence, sentience, etc. Perhaps the same explanation justifies low-level philosophy courses and the bull sessions students hold in the wee hours after them, but Hofstadter and Dennett manage to use material a great deal more entertaining, more exotic and altogether smarter. Would that we could get a revised and expanded update.