lavalamp comments on The Lifespan Dilemma - Less Wrong

39 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 September 2009 06:45PM

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Comment author: lavalamp 10 September 2009 09:04:45PM -1 points [-]

Does the paradox go away if we set U(death) = -∞ utilons (making any increase in the chance of dying in the next hour impossible to overcome)? Does that introduce worse problems?

Comment author: Psy-Kosh 10 September 2009 09:12:05PM 5 points [-]

but U(death in bignum years) would also be - infinity utilions then, right?

This problem was explicitly constructed as "living a long time and then dying vs living a short time and then dying."

Comment author: Larks 10 September 2009 10:16:27PM 3 points [-]

However, this doesn't describe people's actual utility functions- people crossing the road shows they're willing to take a small risk of death for other rewards.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 11 September 2009 12:40:44AM 1 point [-]

I think this needs a bit of refinement, but it might work. Humans have a pretty strong immediacy bias; a greater than 0.1% chance of dying in the next hour really gets our attention. Infinity is way too strong; people do stand their ground on battlefields and such. But certainly you can assign a vast negative utility to that outcome as a practical description of how humans actually think, rather than as an ideal utility function describing how we ought to think.