aausch comments on Rationality Quotes November 2009 - Less Wrong

8 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 November 2009 11:36PM

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Comment author: aausch 01 December 2009 03:55:06AM 2 points [-]

My intuition marked this comment's intent as more humorous than serious- is my calibration off?

Comment author: wedrifid 01 December 2009 04:15:02AM 4 points [-]

I read ironic sincerity.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 December 2009 04:31:39AM 2 points [-]

Yup.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 01 December 2009 10:48:59AM *  0 points [-]

"Ironic sincerity"?

Edited to amplify: I have never seen the term previous to this thread. Google doesn't turn up much beyond the quoted quip. Is ironic sincerity when you pretend to pretend not to believe what you're saying and then everyone pretends to pretend you didn't believe it so that no-one need be put to the trouble of thinking about it and deciding whether it actually made sense or not? Or not?

Comment author: gwern 22 October 2011 01:15:53AM 6 points [-]
Comment author: wedrifid 06 December 2009 07:58:44AM *  3 points [-]

I have never seen the term previous to this thread.

It is two terms. Just 'sincerity' that happens to also be ironic. Or perhaps irony that just so happens to be expressed through sincere. It's like saying something 'tongue in cheek' but when the point you are making is something you clearly really mean it even though you know it may be surprising to the audience at first glance.

Comment author: someonewrongonthenet 30 May 2013 02:31:14PM *  2 points [-]

It means that it was a true statement, but that reading the statement still tickles the "irony" feeling in your brain.

I think part of the reason that this is so is that some people sympathize with this mathematician's motives. An analogy:

"He donated $1,000 to charity, instead of donating his entire discretionary income."

"How utterly selfish of him."

It's true that it's selfish, but it's a lot less selfish than what most people do, so it feels ironic and sarcastic that we are calling him selfish.