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Comment author: Jack 14 December 2009 08:05:23PM *  4 points [-]

Rudy Guede, who had committed at least three burglaries in the previous week

Jeeze, how did I miss that. Do you have a link?

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Comment author: rmattbill 14 December 2009 11:37:57PM 5 points [-]

Sorry, my post contained an error. It was three burglaries in five weeks, not one week.

This is from an article at the Daily Mail entitled "Amanda Knox: The Troubling Doubts Over Foxy Knoxy's Role in Meredith Kercher's Murder."

Here's the link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234298/Amanda-Knox-The-troubling-doubts-Foxy-Knoxys-role-Meredith-Kerchers-murder.html

And the pertinent text from the article:

On September 27, 2007 - five weeks before the killing - Perugia bar tender Cristian Tramantano heard a noise downstairs in his home and found Guede wandering around with a large knife. Tramantano recognised Guede from his work in a nightclub.

There was a confrontation between the two, which ended when Guede ran away. On four occasions, Tramantano went to Perugia's central police station to report the break-in, identify Guede as the culprit and to detail how the intruder was armed and threatened him.

On each occasion, he says he was ignored and the police refused to log his complaint.

The following weekend, there was a break-in at an English-speaking nursery school in Milan in which 2,000 euros and a digital camera were stolen. The school owner, Maria Antoinette Salvadori del Prato, reported it to her local police station.

Three weeks later, on Saturday, October 27 - one week before the murder - Mrs Prato arrived at the school early in the morning with a locksmith to replace the front door, only to be confronted by Guede standing in the main entrance.

Police were called and Guede questioned. A stolen laptop, digital camera and ten-inch kitchen knife were found in his backpack.

But instead of being arrested and charged, Guede was merely escorted to Milan central railway station and placed on a train back to Perugia.

In the interim, on the weekend of October 13, there had been a break-in at the office of lawyers Paolo Brocchi and Luigi Palazzoli, in which a firstfloor window was smashed - similar to the break-in at Meredith's house. A computer and other items were stolen.

They were later found in Guede's possession, but he was not arrested or charged.

Comment author: zero_call 14 December 2009 11:46:00PM 2 points [-]

The Daily Mail is a British tabloid... frequently posting completely fraudulent information about football players, for example... check your sources friend...

Comment author: AnnaGilmour 15 December 2009 12:59:20AM 0 points [-]

The above quoted story was reported in more than just the Daily Mail. I will look for a few of the other articles.

Comment author: AnnaGilmour 15 December 2009 12:57:58AM 0 points [-]

I read three in the week leading up to the murder, as well. I should recheck that. But it is confirmed that he traveled with a 16 inch knife "for protection" and that he had various run-ins resulting in complaints to police that were ignored by the police.

Comment author: AnnaGilmour 15 December 2009 05:14:17PM 3 points [-]

For the most horrible information about Guede, read his journal. Not fun to read, as it is very dark, but reveals a telling psychological profile as well as shows his time line the night of the murder. His Skype conversation as well gives a lot of information.

On the other hand, if you read Raffaele's writing, it shows his innocence.

Comment author: AnnaGilmour 15 December 2009 12:29:12AM 0 points [-]

Yes... a huge fact that did not hit the headlines in any big way.

Comment author: Jack 15 December 2009 02:33:18AM 0 points [-]

I'm still waiting on non-tabloid verification. A quick look at the paper's wikipedia page yields a long list of successful libel suits.

Comment author: AnnaGilmour 15 December 2009 05:11:00PM 0 points [-]

Just one more comment. One more article, includes someone who knows Rudy who said he used cocaine.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/2976474/Meredith-Kercher-murder-trial-Rudy-Guede-was-violent-to-women.html

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Comment author: AnnaGilmour 15 December 2009 04:19:32PM *  0 points [-]

Sorry... I'm in the Pacific Time Zone... Just got back to the computer... I am looking into non Daily Mail/Mirror articles. Am at work, so have to look as I can. I do know it was part of the court record and that the kindergarten teacher testified and a police person might have as well. I am looking for something on the court record. Candace Dempsey of the Seattle Post Intelligencer was following that aspect of the case and wrote about it in her blog Italian Woman at the Table. Guede's criminal history is established as fact, as well as the police turning away reports about him.