Technologos comments on Open Thread: January 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Technologos 11 January 2010 09:41:54PM 1 point [-]

It does occur to me that I wasn't objecting to the hypothetical existence of said function, only that rights aren't especially useful if we give up on caring about them in any world where we cannot prevent literally all violations.

Comment author: thomblake 11 January 2010 10:30:47PM 0 points [-]

It seems like a non-sequitur in response to Roko's illustration of what a utility function can be used to represent.

Comment author: Technologos 12 January 2010 05:37:27AM 0 points [-]

I was connecting it to and agreeing with Zack M Davis' thought about utilitarianism. Even with Roko's utility function, if you have to choose between two lotteries over outcomes, you are still minimizing the expected number of rights violations. If you make your utility function lexicographic in rights, then once you've done the best you can with rights, you're still a utilitarian in the usual sense within the class of choices that minimizes rights violations.