mattnewport comments on Normal Cryonics - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 January 2010 07:08PM

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Comment author: mattnewport 20 January 2010 01:55:39AM 2 points [-]

Are you supposed to be the extrovert in the 'extrovert hell' scenario? Extroverts generally don't have trouble finding new friends, or fear a situation where they find themselves surrounded by strangers.

Comment author: Alicorn 20 January 2010 02:01:17AM 2 points [-]

I'm the extrovert, yes. In the sense of needing people, not in the sense of finding them easy to be around (I have a friend who finds it fantastically amusing to call herself a social introvert and me an antisocial extrovert, which is a fair enough description). I actually get very little value from interacting with strangers, especially in large groups. I need people who I'm reasonably close to in order to accomplish anything, and that takes some time to build up to. None of my strategies for making new friends will be present in a no-pre-reviv-friends-or-family wake-up scenario.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 20 January 2010 02:59:49PM 1 point [-]

I actually get very little value from interacting with strangers, especially in large groups. I need people who I'm reasonably close to in order to accomplish anything

If the choice were available, would you change any of that?

Comment author: Alicorn 20 January 2010 03:01:47PM 1 point [-]

I think that would depend heavily on the mechanism by which it'd be changed. I'd try cognitive exercises or something to adjust the value I get from strangers and large groups; I don't want to be drugged.

Comment author: mattnewport 20 January 2010 02:08:57AM 0 points [-]

Hmm, ok. I'd say you're using 'extrovert' in a fairly non-standard way but I think I understand what you're saying now.

Comment author: bgrah449 20 January 2010 02:11:31AM 3 points [-]

I think of an extrovert as someone who recharges by being around other people, and an introvert as someone who recharges by being alone, regardless of social proclivity or ability.

Comment author: mattnewport 20 January 2010 02:16:30AM 2 points [-]

"I make new friends easily" is one of the standard agree/disagree statements used to test for extraversion which is why I find this usage a little unusual.

Comment author: bgrah449 20 January 2010 02:21:23AM 0 points [-]

But it's not the only agree/disagree statement on the test, right?

Comment author: mattnewport 20 January 2010 02:31:24AM 0 points [-]

No, it seems Alicorn's usage of extrovert is valid. It is just not what I'd previously understood by the word. The 'makes friends easily' part of extrovert is the salient feature of extraversion for me.

Comment author: Kevin 20 January 2010 12:35:42PM *  1 point [-]

It's all on an introvert/extrovert test, but to me the salient feature of extroversion is finding interaction with others energizing and finding being alone draining. Introverts find it tiring to interact with others and they find being alone energizing, on a continuous spectrum.

I fall in the dead center on an introvert/extrovert test; I'm not sure how uncommon that is.

Comment author: wedrifid 20 January 2010 02:39:55AM 0 points [-]

(Although naturally there tends to be a correlation with the latter two.)