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58 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 January 2010 07:08PM

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Comment author: byrnema 23 January 2010 01:49:24AM *  1 point [-]

I'm still so baffled by this post.

Eliezer, do you like human beings? As they are, or do you want to change them?

Please: recognize the motive in asking this question, and give me a square answer.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 23 January 2010 02:47:20AM 4 points [-]

http://books.google.com/books?id=MK0-GY5Ak7MC&pg=PA88&lpg=PA88&dq=%22sock+full+of%22+%22ozy+and+millie%22&source=bl&ots=f0DznsbBEK&sig=oXYyvFEDclrOajLIz7kdKI6oC0k&hl=en&ei=GGNaS-exFISksgPps6zMBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Second comic from the top.

Backup link: http://dergeis.livejournal.com/319819.html

Comment author: CronoDAS 23 January 2010 05:34:42AM *  3 points [-]

(In other words: "I love humanity. It's people I can't stand." - Linus van Pelt)?

Comment author: Alicorn 23 January 2010 03:17:42AM 4 points [-]

I'm rather the opposite. My feelings can best be summed up by a Pirates of Penzance quote rather than a webcomic:

Individually, I love you all with affection unspeakable. But collectively, I look upon you with a disgust that amounts to absolute detestation.

Comment author: juliawise 21 July 2011 02:11:05PM 0 points [-]

Or Mrs. Banks in Mary Poppins: "Though we adore men individually, we agree that as a group they're rather stupid."

Comment author: Bindbreaker 23 January 2010 03:24:55AM 0 points [-]

What does that mean in practical terms?

Comment author: Alicorn 23 January 2010 03:27:01AM *  6 points [-]

I adore many individual humans, and considering even complete strangers one at a time, I can offer the benefit of the doubt to a considerable degree. I abhor us as a species, and when large groups of humans do stupid or evil things, my benefit-of-doubt mechanisms stop working and I fall back on "we suck".

Comment author: CronoDAS 23 January 2010 05:51:42AM 8 points [-]

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it." - Agent K, Men in Black

Comment author: RobinZ 23 January 2010 11:14:01PM 3 points [-]

Original link: http://www.ozyandmillie.org/d/20030324.html

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 23 January 2010 02:39:58AM 1 point [-]

There's no question that Eliezer wants humans to change. But he wants them to change in accordance with a coherent extrapolation of their values as they are now.

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