Stuart_Armstrong comments on Deontology for Consequentialists - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 February 2010 11:55:31AM *  4 points [-]

Deontological arguments (apart from helping with "running on corrupted hardware") are useful for the compression of moral values. It's much easier to check your one-line deontology, than to run a complicated utility function through your best estimate of the future world.

A simple "do not murder" works better, for most people, than a complex utilitarian balancing of consequences and outcomes. And most deontological aguments are not rigid; they shade towards consequentialism when the consequences get too huge:

  • Freedom of speech is absolute - but don't shout fire in a crowded theatre.
  • Don't murder - except in war, or in self-defence.
  • Do not lie - but tell the nazis your cellars are empty of jews.

Where denotology breaks down is when the situation is unusual: where simply adding extra patches doesn't work. When dealing with large quantities of odd minds in odd universes; or the human race over the span of eons; then it's time to break out the consequentialism, and accept that our moral intutions can no longer be deontologically compressed.

Comment author: Wei_Dai 01 February 2010 12:38:49PM 5 points [-]

I think what you're talking about isn't deontology, but rule utilitarianism.

Comment author: thomblake 01 February 2010 02:27:20PM 6 points [-]

"rule utilitarianism" collapses into deontology or regular utilitarianism when pushed; otherwise, it's inconsistent. Though it is generally accepted by utilitarians that acting according to general rules will in practice generate more utility than trying to reason about every situation anew.

Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 01 February 2010 12:58:40PM 1 point [-]

Possibly; are they distinguished in practice?