timtyler comments on Complexity of Value ≠ Complexity of Outcome - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 30 January 2010 01:30:48PM 3 points [-]

My case was here:

http://lesswrong.com/lw/1m5/savulescu_genetically_enhance_humanity_or_face/1fuv

Basically, morality is a product of evolution - which can be expected to favour some moral values over other ones - just as it favours certain physical structures like eyes and legs.

Things like: "under most circumstances, don't massacre your relatives or yourself" can be reasonably expected to be widespread values in the universe. The idea gives morality a foundation in the natural world.

Comment author: byrnema 30 January 2010 02:54:16PM 0 points [-]

It is useful that Tim summarizes his position in this context, voted up.

My position, developed with no background in philosophy or meta-ethics whatsoever and thus likely to be error-riddled or misguided, is that I consider it an unsolved problem within physical materialism (specifically, within the context of moral anti-realism) how "meaning" (the meaning of life and/or the value of values) can be a coherent or possible concept.

Comment author: ciphergoth 31 January 2010 10:37:01AM *  2 points [-]

Leave humans out of it and try to think about meanings of signals among animals, with an evolutionary perspective.