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Could someone discuss the pluses and minuses of ALCOR vs Cryonics Institute.
I think Eliezer mentioned that he is with CI because he is young. My reading of the websites seem to indicate that CI leaves a lot of work to be potentially done by loved ones or local medical professionals who might not be in the best state of mind or see fit to co-operate with a cryonics contract.
Thoughts?
It's not at all obvious to me how to comparison-shop for cryonics. The websites are good as far as they go, but CI's in particular is tricky to navigate, funding with life insurance messes with my estimation of costs, and there doesn't seem to be a convenient chart saying "if you're this old and this healthy and this solvent and your family members are this opposed to cryopreservation, go with this plan from this org".
Alcor is better.
CI is cheaper and probably good enough.
"Probably good enough" doesn't engender a lot of confidence. It would seem a tragedy to go through all of this and then not be reanimated because you carelessly chose the wrong org.
On the other hand spending too much time trying to pick the right org does seem like raw material for cryocrastination.
Does anyone have thoughts / links on whole body vitrification? ALCOR claims that this is less effective than going neuro, but CI doesn't seem to offer neuro option anymore.
Disclaimer: I have no relevant expertise. That said, FWIW I suspect that whole-body people will be brought back first:
if through bodily reanimation, because repair of the whole body will be easier than replacement of the body given only the severed head
if through scanning/WBE, because it will be possible to scan their spinal columns as well as their brains and it will be easier to build them virtual bodies using their real bodies as a basis.
Though CI don't offer a neuro option, their focus (obviously) is preserving the information in the brain.
Is Alcor in fact that much better than CI (plus SA, that is)?
"SA"?
Alcor both stores your body and provides for bedside "standby" service to immediately begin cooling. With CI, it's a good idea to contract a third party to perform that service, and SA is the recommended company to perform that service. http://www.suspendedinc.com/
It depends on how you define that much better, but probably not. The only concrete thing I know of is that Alcor saves and invests more money per suspendee.
I'd guess CI + SA > Alcor > CI.
I didn't know you thought CI + SA was actually better than Alcor regardless of cost. Have you said that in more words elsewhere on this site?