Annoyance comments on Adversarial System Hats - Less Wrong

8 Post author: Johnicholas 11 March 2009 04:56PM

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Comment author: Annoyance 11 March 2009 08:30:38PM 1 point [-]

I tend to view any system in which rhetoric is emphasized to be a great example of how not to be rational.

Speech and debate competitions in high school only solidified that belief.

Comment author: HCE 12 March 2009 01:14:56AM *  3 points [-]

at the same time, if you're a lawyer defending someone likely to be innocent and your goal is to have him exonerated, the most rational strategy is to use whatever lawyerly wiles you have at your disposal to convince an irrational jury of his innocence. an airtight bayesian argument may not be understood or it may be understood but disregarded, whereas a persuasive story vividly told can convince a jury of almost anything.

you cannot win the game if you refuse to accept the rules, and one of the implicit rules in almost every social game is that almost all of the participants are irrational almost all of the time.