Alicorn comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alicorn 05 June 2010 06:30:29PM *  3 points [-]

How does all this exactingly correct pronunciation stuff interact with accents, speech impediments, having just been socked in the face, or otherwise having issues with getting exact sounds out?

For that matter, what do mute wizards and witches do? Do they just have to learn to cast everything nonverbally? Or can they cure muteness with magic such that it never comes up?

Comment author: alethiophile 29 July 2010 08:43:38PM 2 points [-]

There's mention in the fifth book of canon that Neville gets a fat lip and is unable to pronounce spells in battle (he ends up just stabbing someone with his wand).

Comment author: gwern 13 June 2010 05:43:39PM 2 points [-]

For that matter, what do mute wizards and witches do? Do they just have to learn to cast everything nonverbally?

Wandless magic presumably.

(I vaguely recall mention of Eastern wizards relying on gestures and not wands/vocalization, but I'm not sure whether this is canon or fanfic.)

Comment author: sketerpot 13 July 2010 08:03:05PM 0 points [-]

Have you read Harry Potter and the Nightmares of Futures Past? It mentioned the eastern wizards doing hand gestures thing, and I don't recall the canon books ever talking about that. So if you've read NoFP, you probably got the idea from there.

Comment author: gwern 14 July 2010 04:00:22AM 0 points [-]

I did in fact read it after it was linked in the reviews for MoR (either here or on ff.net), so I guess that's where it came from! Well-spotted.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 June 2010 06:34:19PM 0 points [-]

At this point, the precision seems to just be about duration of vowels. I don't know how Harry chose that test.

Afaik, spells don't have to be written in the International Phonetic Alphabet.

Comment author: LucasSloan 13 June 2010 06:50:41PM *  1 point [-]

He was testing 16 different variants. The vowel duration was only the test we saw in full.