Theist comments on Rationality quotes: June 2010 - Less Wrong

4 Post author: Morendil 01 June 2010 06:07PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (215)

You are viewing a single comment's thread.

Comment author: Theist 04 June 2010 11:27:54PM 26 points [-]

"I accidentally changed my mind."

my four-year-old

Comment author: JoshuaZ 04 June 2010 11:30:54PM 0 points [-]

Well, that hopefully lead to a teaching moment...

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 05 June 2010 03:42:34PM 2 points [-]

It leads to a contemplative moment for me-- I suspect accidentally changing one's mind happens relatively often.

Comment author: phaedrus 21 December 2010 09:35:33PM 2 points [-]
Comment author: NancyLebovitz 21 December 2010 11:22:50PM 0 points [-]

Thank you. I know of a couple things I've changed my mind about, but I may be unusually inclined to keep track.

Comment author: Benquo 07 June 2010 08:50:04PM 0 points [-]

Maybe you can explain to me what the lesson is here?

Comment author: JoshuaZ 07 June 2010 08:57:15PM 2 points [-]

It depends precisely on the context of what the kid meant. But I would think that high on the list would making sure the kid understands that changing one's mind based on evidence is a good thing. And discussing with the kid why they changed their mind? Did they do so for a good reason based on facts and thinking? Or was it purely emotional?

Comment author: Benquo 09 June 2010 07:57:48PM 0 points [-]

Oh, I see. Thanks.

Comment author: wedrifid 18 June 2010 12:54:22PM 0 points [-]

Did they do so for a good reason based on facts and thinking? Or was it purely emotional?

I will not teach my children that changing one's mind based on emotion is bad. Particularly not before I establish whether their emotional or logical thinking is their strong point.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 18 June 2010 02:06:06PM 1 point [-]

I will not teach my children that changing one's mind based on emotion is bad. Particularly not before I establish whether their emotional or logical thinking is their strong point.

What do you mean by emotional thinking? And how do you determine whether someone has good emotional thinking?

Comment author: wedrifid 18 June 2010 02:49:02PM *  3 points [-]

What do you mean by emotional thinking?

I was running with the distinction from the context: "A good reason based on facts and thinking vs X"

I make the observation that many (most?) people can more effectively guide their lives by doing what 'feels' right than by facts and reason. In fact, humans come wired with mechanisms which allow feelings to override reason. The quote Roko made on this very page alludes to why.

And how do you determine whether someone has good emotional thinking?

You look at whether they screw up more - When they do what they think is the right thing to do or when they go with what they feel is right. In all cases there will be times for each kind of thought and the balance will depend on personality and aptitude for various thinking patterns.

What I will NEVER do is train my children to associate "facts and thinking" with 'good' and and contrasted with 'emotional'. It takes a HUGE amount of facts and thinking to equal the quality of thought that emotions represent and quite often those that are best at giving priority to "good reason, facts and thinking" over emotions are not those who are the most successful. (Even though I'll probably like them more. ;))