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Comment author: Blueberry 28 June 2010 08:04:41PM *  0 points [-]

I disagree with the first sentence. Since my disagreement hinges on the difference between partial and total derivatives I hope it is broadly interesting.

If q is a function of c, then h becomes a function of one independent variable, and your use of partials here doesn't make sense, because you can't hold c constant while changing q or vice versa.

Comment author: AlanCrowe 28 June 2010 08:37:55PM *  2 points [-]

You are making me feel old. My notation was orthodox in 1958. Indeed, in A Course Of Pure Mathematics, Tenth Edition, section 157, Hardy writes:

The distinction between the two functions is adequately shown by denoting the first by and the second by , in which case the theorem takes the form though this notation is also open to objection, in that it is a little misleading to denote the functions and whose forms as functions of x are quite different from one another, by the same letter f in and .

Comment author: cupholder 28 June 2010 09:20:12PM 0 points [-]

I think your notation is still orthodox, or at least fairly common, nowadays. Wikipedia uses it on its total derivative page, for example, and it seems familiar to me.

Comment author: cupholder 28 June 2010 09:23:21PM 1 point [-]

If q is a function of c, then h becomes a function of one independent variable, and your use of partials here doesn't make sense, because you can't hold c constant while changing q or vice versa.

I thought that this was the kind of situation partial derivatives are there for. AlanCrowe's just applied the multivariable chain rule, if I'm getting it right.

Comment author: Blueberry 28 June 2010 09:53:10PM 0 points [-]

Thanks, you (and Alan) are right. Sorry, it's been a while.