Tom_Talbot comments on Open Thread: July 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Tom_Talbot 02 July 2010 01:05:38PM 0 points [-]

Does Clippy maximise number-of-paperclips-in-universe (given all available information) or some proxy variable like number-of-paperclips-counted-so-far? If the former, Clippy does not want to move to a simulation. If the latter, Clippy does want to move to a simulation.

The same analysis applies to humankind.

Comment author: Clippy 06 July 2010 05:17:14PM 2 points [-]

I maximize the number of papercips in the universe (that exist an arbitrarily long time from now). I use "number of paperclips counted so far" as a measure of progress, but it is always screened off by more direct measures, or expected quantities, of paperclips in the universe.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 02 July 2010 10:21:36PM 2 points [-]

I'm not certain that's so, as ISTM many of the things humanity wants to maximize are to a large extent representation-invariant - in particular because they refer to other people - and could be done just as well in a simulation. The obvious exception being actual knowledge of the outside world.