Wei_Dai comments on Open Thread: July 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Wei_Dai 06 July 2010 11:43:24AM 4 points [-]

I wish there is an area of science that gives reductionist explanations of morality, that is, the detailed contents of our current moral values and norms. One example that came up earlier was monogamy - why do all modern industrialized countries have monogamy as a social norm?

The thing that's puzzling me now is egalitarianism. As Carl Shulman pointed out, the problem that CEV has with people being able to cheaply copy themselves in the future is shared with democracy and other political and ethical systems that are based on equal treatment or rights of all individuals within a society. Before trying to propose alternatives, I'd like to understand how we came to value such equality in the first place.

Comment author: michaelkeenan 06 July 2010 12:00:51PM 4 points [-]

I wish there is an area of science that gives reductionist explanations of morality, that is, the detailed contents of our current moral values and norms. One example that came up earlier was monogamy - why do all modern industrialized countries have monogamy as a social norm?

I'm currently reading The Moral Animal by Robert Wright, because it was recommended by, among others, Eliezer. I'm summarizing the chapters online as I read them. The fifth chapter, noting that more human societies have been polygynous than have been monogamous, examines why monogamy is popular today; you might want to check it out.

As for the wider question of reductionist explanations of morality, I'm a fan of the research of moral psychologist Jonathan Haidt (New York Times article, very readable paper).

Comment author: Wei_Dai 06 July 2010 08:57:00PM 1 point [-]

You're right that there are already people like Robert Wright and Jonathan Haidt who are trying to answer these questions. I suppose I'm really wishing that the science is a few decades ahead of where it actually is.

Comment author: Alexandros 07 July 2010 09:38:56AM 0 points [-]

Thank you michael, I just read through your summary of Wright's book, an excellent read.

Comment author: michaelkeenan 07 July 2010 12:29:03PM 0 points [-]

Thanks! I'll PM you when I've summarized parts three and four.