pjeby comments on Public Choice and the Altruist's Burden - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 23 July 2010 03:36:30AM 4 points [-]

Perhaps you were thinking of someone very close like your wife, to whom you don't need to signal wealth?

Why would I want to signal wealth to anybody?

This still supports the conclusion that the action that is optimal for you personally doesn't maximize social welfare.

What are you talking about? In some of the internet marketer circles I hang out in, it's almost gauche to not be involved in some sort of charitable endeavor.

They are not particularly concerned about efficiency, true, but surely you can find some social circle that agrees with you. Hang out with GiveWell staff, if you must. ;-)

IOW, your language both in the post and this comment continue to strike me as victim-thinking. It's not like we're all forced to interact with exactly one social circle.

Comment author: steven0461 23 July 2010 04:22:38AM 4 points [-]

It's not like we're all forced to interact with exactly one social circle.

Why the bizarre absolute? People don't have perfect freedom choosing whom to interact with, and to the extent that they don't, Roko's thesis holds.

Comment author: pjeby 23 July 2010 08:14:17PM 0 points [-]

People don't have perfect freedom choosing whom to interact with

But we have near-perfect freedom choosing whom not to interact with, and to choose our environment such that we either aren't dependent upon others' opinions of our status, or such that we are only interacting with those who have favorable perceptions of it.

In marketing terminology, this is called, "finding your niche". ;-)

Comment author: cousin_it 23 July 2010 06:31:19PM *  3 points [-]

Why would I want to signal wealth to anybody?

I emphatically agree. My strategy of choice is signaling that I'm an exciting person (by trying to actually be an exciting person), and I can't imagine why charity would interfere with that.