DanArmak comments on Open Thread, August 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanArmak 01 August 2010 07:44:11PM 1 point [-]

Copying has at best zero utility (as regards interests): each copy only indulges in one interest, and I anticipate being only one copy, even if I don't know in advance which one.

How is having children at all similar? 1) children would have different interests; 2) I cannot control (precommit) future children; 3) raising children would be for me a huge negative utility - both emotionally and resource-wise.

Comment author: Jordan 01 August 2010 08:54:04PM *  6 points [-]

Copying has at best zero utility (as regards interests)

This is not true for me. I care about my ideas beyond my own desire to implement them. If I knew there was a passionate and capable person willing to take over some of my ideas (which I'd otherwise not have time for), I'd jump on the opportunity.

Doubly so if the other person was a copy of me, in which case I'd not only have a guarantee on competence, but assurance that the person would be able to relate the story and product to me afterwards (and possibly share the profit).

Comment author: ShardPhoenix 02 August 2010 11:48:34AM *  0 points [-]

Doubly so if the other person was a copy of me, in which case I'd not only have a guarantee on competence, but assurance that the person would be able to relate the story and product to me afterwards (and possibly share the profit).

Interestingly, now that you bring this up, I'm not at all certain that I'd be able to communicate especially effectively with a copy of myself. Probably better than with a randomly selected person, but perhaps not as well as I might hope.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 02 August 2010 01:01:13PM 1 point [-]

Interestingly, now that you bring this up, I'm not at all certain that I'd be able to communicate especially effectively with a copy of myself. Probably better than with a randomly selected person, but perhaps not as well as I might hope.

What makes you reach that conclusion?

Comment author: Jordan 02 August 2010 07:16:41PM 0 points [-]

I think communication would start out good and become amazing over time. I don't communicate with myself completely in English, there's a lot of thoughts that go through unencoded. Having a copy of myself to talk to would force us to encode those raw thoughts as best as possible. This isn't necessarily easy but I think the really difficulty part would already be behind us, namely having the same core thoughts.

Comment author: humpolec 01 August 2010 09:40:31PM 2 points [-]

How is having children at all similar?

I think people can feel a sense of accomplishment when their child achieved something they wanted but never got around to.