Vladimir_Nesov comments on Existential Risk and Public Relations - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 18 November 2010 10:09:41PM *  5 points [-]

No one looks at open problems in other fields this way.

Yes, the situation isn't normal or good. But this isn't a balanced comparison, since we don't currently have a field, too few people understand the problem and had seriously thought about it. This gradually changes, and I expect will be visibly less of a problem in another 10 years.

Comment author: Jack 18 November 2010 10:15:17PM 0 points [-]

I may have an incorrect impression, but SIAI or at least Eliezer's department seems to have a self-image comparable to the Manhattan project rather than early pioneers of a scientific field.

Comment author: multifoliaterose 18 November 2010 11:26:50PM *  2 points [-]

Eliezer's past remarks seem to have pointed to a self-image comparable to the Manhatten project. However, according the new SIAI Overview:

We aim to seed the above research programs. We are too small to carry out all the needed research ourselves, but we can get the ball rolling.

Comment author: ata 18 November 2010 10:43:58PM *  1 point [-]

I may have an incorrect impression, but SIAI or at least Eliezer's department seems to have a self-image comparable to the Manhattan project

Eliezer has said: "I have a policy of keeping my thoughts on Friendly AI to the object level, and not worrying about how important or unimportant that makes me." Your call as to whether you believe that. (The rest of that post, and some of his other posts in that discussion, address some points similar to those that you raised.)

That said, "self-image comparable to the Manhattan project" is an unusually generous ascription of humility to SIAI and Eliezer. :P

Comment author: JGWeissman 18 November 2010 10:33:45PM 1 point [-]

They want to become comparable to the Manhattan project, in part by recruiting additional FAI researchers. They do not claim to be at that stage now.