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Comment author: wedrifid 19 November 2010 06:41:59PM *  2 points [-]

You can't just assume it as you do here.

Yes, here WrongBot is safe to assume basic physics.

Edit for the sake of technical completeness: And biology.

Comment author: Jack 19 November 2010 06:49:34PM 0 points [-]

Goertzel's paper on the subject is about extending the de Broglie Bohm pilot wave theory in a way that accounts for psi while being totally consistent with all known physics. Maybe it is nonsense, I haven't read it. But you can't assume it is.

Comment author: wedrifid 19 November 2010 06:59:58PM *  0 points [-]

Maybe it is nonsense, I haven't read it. But you can't assume it is.

I disagree. I do not need to (and should not) discard my priors when evaluating claims.

It would be an error in reasoning on my part if I did not account for the low prior (to reading it) probability of a psyonics theory being sane when evaluating the proponents other claims. For emphasis: not lowering my confidence in Goertzel's other beliefs because he is a proponent of psi without me having read his paper would be an outright mistake.

I also note that you defending Goertzel on the psi point is evidence against Goertzel's beliefs regarding AI. Extremely weak evidence.

Comment author: Jack 19 November 2010 07:12:56PM 0 points [-]

I also note that you defending Goertzel on the psi point is evidence against Goertzel's beliefs regarding AI. Extremely weak evidence.

Huh?

Comment author: wedrifid 19 November 2010 07:30:33PM 0 points [-]

I mean what is written in the straightforward English sense. I mention it to emphasize that all evidence counts.

Comment author: FAWS 20 November 2010 12:57:48AM *  0 points [-]

Could you unpack your reasoning? Do you mean that Jack defending Goertzel on psi discredits defense of Goertzel on AI because it shows such defense to be less correlated to the validity of the opinion than previously thought? Or did you drop a negation or something and mean the opposite of what you wrote, because Jack defending Goertzel on psi is very slight evidence of Goertzel's opinion on psi not being as crazy as you previously thought?