cousin_it comments on Newcomb's Problem: A problem for Causal Decision Theories - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cousin_it 16 August 2010 02:23:11PM 4 points [-]

The prediction method doesn't have to be very good. A predictor that's only slightly better than chance is quite enough to put EDT and CDT into conflict. For example, I could achieve better than 50% accuracy on LW participants by just reading through their comment history and seeing what they think about Newcomb's Problem.

Comment author: Kingreaper 16 August 2010 02:38:46PM 0 points [-]

Indeed. A 55% accuracy is plenty to make this an issue. And at present, CDT seems to me to fail on the 55% accuracy problem; whereas EDT clearly works.

Comment author: cousin_it 16 August 2010 02:42:16PM *  2 points [-]

It's easy to construct Newcomb-like problems where EDT fails. For example, we could make the two boxes transparent, so you already see their contents and your action gives you no further evidence. One-boxing is still the right decision because that's what you'd like to be predicted by Omega (alternatively: if you could modify your brain before meeting Omega, that's what you'd precommit to doing), but both EDT and CDT fail to see that. Another similar example is Parfit's Hitchhiker.

Comment author: Kingreaper 16 August 2010 02:49:56PM 0 points [-]

CDT still works in that case if you're dealing with omega, and have no reaason to believe Omega won't simulate you. If you are one of the simulations, you decide the prediction for the real version

Comment author: cousin_it 16 August 2010 02:52:16PM *  0 points [-]

How about if you're dealing with me?

Comment author: Kingreaper 16 August 2010 02:56:41PM 1 point [-]

Then CDT seems to fail, with it being a low-% case (perhaps 55% as I used above) and EDT fails due to the prize already being in evidence