ciphergoth comments on Consciousness of simulations & uploads: a reductio - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ciphergoth 22 August 2010 12:00:53PM *  3 points [-]

Couldn't you make the same argument about literally switching on a light? :-) Obviously the idea that a light is sometimes on and sometimes off is a naive preconception that we should dispense with.

Correct - the impression that it is an instantaneous, discontinuous process is an illusion caused by the speed of the transition compared to the speed of our perceptions.

Comment author: AlephNeil 22 August 2010 12:34:22PM 1 point [-]

Yeah, but I think "mental discretists" can tolerate that kind of very-rapid-but-still-continuous physical change - they just have to say that a mental moment corresponds to (its properties correlate with those of) a smallish patch of spacetime.

I mean, if you believe in unified "mental moments" at all then you've got to believe something like that, just because the brain occupies a macroscopic region of space, and because of the finite speed of light.

But this defense becomes manifestly absurd if we can draw out the grey area sufficiently far (e.g. over the entire lifetime of some not-quite-conscious animal.)

Comment author: Sniffnoy 22 August 2010 09:25:18PM 0 points [-]

That, and the stability of the states on either side.