David_Allen comments on The conscious tape - Less Wrong

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Comment author: David_Allen 16 September 2010 10:01:46PM *  0 points [-]

Consciousness is a roughly defined and (leaky) abstraction.

So this leads to the conclusion that, if a Turing machine computes consciousness and summarizes its output in a static representation on a tape, the tape is conscious.

Without context the content of the tape has no meaning. So the consciousness that has been output on the tape, is only a consciousness in the context that can use it to generate the consciousness abstraction.

It is the set of "stuff" that produces the consciousness abstraction that can be called conscious. In a Turing machine, this "stuff" would be the tape plus the machine that gives the tape the necessary context.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 17 September 2010 06:13:36PM 0 points [-]

As Nisan asked above: Is this Turing machine conscious if you don't run it?

Comment author: David_Allen 17 September 2010 07:31:13PM 1 point [-]

It seems that consciousness requires some type of thought, and that thought requires the system to self-modify. A static representation of the Turing machine then does not meet this requirement.

So a Turing machine that is not running is not conscious.

Is there another perspective to consider?