mattnewport comments on Open Thread, September, 2010-- part 2 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: mattnewport 27 September 2010 09:58:11AM 0 points [-]

This discussion prompted me to give OkCupid another try. Profile's still a work in progress, haven't filled out the books/movies etc. section yet.

Comment author: whpearson 27 September 2010 11:25:24AM *  3 points [-]

I'm going to assume you are interested in a wider range of women than the average (on lesswrong) and point out a profile that I think is successful, and might be useful to you. If you are specifically looking for gender atypical women, then probably ignore this.

Take this guy.

Things he does in his profile worth noting (but not necessarily copying)

1) Implies he gets lots messages

2) Implies that people might want to stalk him

3) Shows he can organise events IRL *

If you look at his journal, lots of people are talking to him, lots of girls are flirting with him. Those sorts of things are a lot harder to engineer than an attractive looking profile, so are good demonstrations of value. You stand out from the crowd.

I've met him in real life and he does seem successful with women. He is easy going and friendly, but intensely cocky and flirty.

*Going to an okcupid meetup is a good way of increasing your exposure on the website as well. You will be featured in diaries + pictures and if you make a good impression you'll get compliments and people to follow and comment on your journals. It can be grey hat if that is the only reason you do it though...

Comment author: mattnewport 27 September 2010 03:52:48PM *  0 points [-]

I'm going to assume you are interested in a wider range of women than the average (on lesswrong)

I think that's probably accurate.

I can see why the profile you link is successful. It's funny and well written. It also signals high status without being too direct or explicit about it. I'm not confident in my ability to pull off the same degree of funny over a similar amount of text however. I tend towards more brevity because I find I get bored of most long profiles (this one mostly avoided that) and I assume most women have the same reaction but I'm not sure if that's a mind projection fallacy. Humour does seem effective in profiles but one of the reasons its a good signal is it is hard to fake and I'm always wary of trying and failing, more so in writing than in person.

Comment author: Relsqui 27 September 2010 07:34:31PM 2 points [-]

I like to travel and am trying to figure out how to do more of it given the twin constraints of free time and money.

If you figure this out, tell me.

Your food section is making me hungry ... but pickled onion monster what?

Your photos are quite good, and the captions made me giggle. I can see why you picked the one you did for the top picture, but I really like the smile in the last one. Smiles are very attractive.

I tend towards more brevity because I find I get bored of most long profiles (this one mostly avoided that) and I assume most women have the same reaction but I'm not sure if that's a mind projection fallacy.

For what it's worth, I think your profile could be a little longer, but the length of the one whpearson linked is excessive. Information content > brevity, but clarity > length.

Humour does seem effective in profiles but one of the reasons its a good signal is it is hard to fake and I'm always wary of trying and failing, more so in writing than in person.

I agree with this. I find humor to be a mild attraction boost, but obviously deliberate attempts at humor which flop are a pretty big turnoff. (For the record, being funny constantly, even successfully, also is--I need to know someone is capable of taking anything seriously.)

This is the problem with a lot of dating/profile advice which observes that people who are _ get lots of dates/messages. It's easy to say that, looking at the data, but much harder to squeeze any kind of practical advice out of it, since "be _" usually isn't.

That said, if you do add more content to your profile and want an opinion on e.g. whether the humor works, I'd be happy to give it another eye.

Comment author: mattnewport 27 September 2010 08:04:29PM 0 points [-]

Your food section is making me hungry ... but pickled onion monster what?

Monster Munch. It's kind of an in joke for anyone who happens to have lived in England - it's a well known brand there but pretty much unheard of anywhere else. For anyone who gets the reference the juxtaposition of a list of healthy unprocessed foods with a completely artificial processed snack might raise a smile.

Your photos are quite good, and the captions made me giggle. I can see why you picked the one you did for the top picture, but I really like the smile in the last one. Smiles are very attractive.

Thanks. The top one tested best on My Best Face on my old (now deleted) profile. I haven't compared it against the bottom one which is pretty recent. Smiles being good seems to be the conventional advice but OkTrends suggested otherwise in one post. I'll rerun the My Best Face test with the newer pictures included.

That said, if you do add more content to your profile and want an opinion on e.g. whether the humor works, I'd be happy to give it another eye.

I might take you up on that. I'll probably fill out the empty sections and refine what's already there over the next few days.

Comment author: Relsqui 27 September 2010 08:10:37PM 0 points [-]

Smiles being good seems to be the conventional advice but OkTrends suggested otherwise in one post.

As noted elsewhere, I don't put a lot of stock in their recommendations, but I admit I'm only the one data point.