RichardKennaway comments on Rationality quotes: October 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RichardKennaway 05 October 2010 12:30:08PM 9 points [-]

If you state any two propositions abstractly enough, they will appear to be the same because you subsume them under the same generalization. But this does not mean they have anything to do with each other; it means only that you prefer not to see the differences.

William T. Powers

Comment author: James_Miller 05 October 2010 01:49:30PM 5 points [-]

I don't understand the first sentence.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 05 October 2010 02:04:33PM *  33 points [-]

Proposition 1: All matter is composed of four elements: earth, water, air, and, fire, each having an unchanging essence, and the variety of the world resulting from their combinations.

Proposition 2: All matter is composed of about 90 elements (the cutoff depending on how many of the more unstable ones one counts), most of which are created out of hydrogen and helium in stars and their supernovas, and which, in combination, give rise to the different material substances we observe.

More abstract proposition that ignores the differences: all matter is composed of fundamental elements.

Erroneous conclusion: the ancients knew modern science!

Proposition 1: Six thousand years ago, God created the world in six days.

Proposition 2: Everything started with the Big Bang some billions of years ago.

Abstract proposition: The universe had a beginning.

Erroneous conclusion: God created the universe. Scientists just call it the Big Bang because they don't want to admit it was God.

ETA: Further example: anyone saying that all religions are fundamentally the same.

ETA: Proposition 1: Here is a hammer. It drives nails.

Proposition 2: Here is a screwdriver. It drives screws.

Abstract proposition: Here is a tool. It drives spiky metal fasteners.

Erroneous conclusion: A Manchester screwdriver.

Comment author: DanielVarga 05 October 2010 04:10:30PM 7 points [-]

Your explanation was way better than your quote.

Comment author: bbleeker 06 October 2010 01:47:03PM 1 point [-]

Thanks! I get it now.

Comment author: bbleeker 05 October 2010 03:11:11PM 2 points [-]

Voted up, because I don't understand that sentence either. Could someone explain it, with an example if possible?

Comment author: gwern 06 October 2010 08:15:30PM 1 point [-]
Comment author: wedrifid 05 October 2010 04:57:22PM 4 points [-]

Reference class tennis.