wedrifid comments on Rationality quotes: October 2010 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: James_Miller 05 October 2010 01:26:40PM *  1 point [-]

"[H]e who commands thirty legions is the most learned of all"
Favorinus explaining why he admitted that Emperor Hadrian had won their debate.

"Won't you stop citing laws to us who have our swords by our sides?" Pompey

Comment author: James_Miller 05 October 2010 01:45:47PM *  3 points [-]

The second quote explains why even in the United States you shouldn't argue over law with a police officer who is questioning you in a situation in which non-police officers are not observing you.

Pompey probably wasn't threatening but rather was pointing out stupidity.

Comment author: NihilCredo 06 October 2010 10:59:05AM *  1 point [-]

I suspect Plutarch stole the second quote from Cicero (Silent enim leges inter arma, "for among weapons laws fall silent") before shoving it in Pompey's mouth.

Comment author: Mass_Driver 06 October 2010 04:20:39AM 0 points [-]

Even here, this quote should not be presented with commentary. Some of the greatest tragedies of human history happened because people who commanded thirty legions through luck, birth, or narrow political talents believed that they were the most learned of all and insisted that others act accordingly.

Might does not make right (justice); still less does it make right (wisdom/truth).

Comment author: James_Miller 05 October 2010 01:42:19PM *  0 points [-]

The value of the first quote to a rationalist comes from understanding that the sentiment behind it has distorted the words of many writers. Favorinus probably believed that Hadrian would not have punished him had he not stated that he lost the debate.