Perplexed comments on Mixed strategy Nash equilibrium - Less Wrong
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Thx for the reference to Abreu-Matsushima (in your response to noitanigami). I wasn't familiar with that. Nonetheless, to the extent I understood, the mechanism only fails in the case of collusion among the bidders (violating an assumption of the proof - right?). And the seller can protect himself by making a bid himself on each item in the lot (a minimum selling price).
I assume you are referring to VCG here. Yeah, chalk up another failure for excessively iterated removal of dominated strategies. It seems we really do need a theory of "trembling brain equilibrium". But, then, short of a fully competitive market, nothing achieves Pareto optimality, so I don't think VCG should be judged too harshly. It is not a practical mechanism, but it is somewhat enlightening.
Regarding Nash equilibrium:
But your example of the American playing B while the Italians play A is not a Nash equilibrium. Your example only demonstrates that it is foolish to promote a mechanism for which the equilibrium is not unique.
To clarify: Abreu-Matsushima fails in practice, regardless of whether there is collusion (and certainly it fails entirely if there is a coalition of even two players). VCG is dominant strategy truthful, but fails in the presence of even two colluding players. I agree that VCG is extremely interesting, but I also think that you should not consider the problem solved once you know VCG. Also, there are mechanisms which do much better than competitive markets can hope to. The question now is how well a benevolent dictator can allocate goods (or whatever you are trying to do).
I agree that my example is not a Nash equilibrium. The point was that rational players may not play a Nash equilibrium. If your notion of a reasonable solution is "it works at equilibria" then sure, this isn't a counterexample. But presumably the minimal thing you would want is "it works when the players are all perfectly rational and don't conclude" which this example shows isn't even satisfied if there are multiple Nash equilibria.
Most mechanisms don't have unique Nash equilibrium. The revelation principle also doesn't preserve the uniqueness of a Nash equilibrium, if you happened to have one at the beginning.