Vladimir_Nesov comments on Ben Goertzel: The Singularity Institute's Scary Idea (and Why I Don't Buy It) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: XiXiDu 31 October 2010 10:30:46AM 4 points [-]

Does astronomical value outweigh astronomical low probability? You can come up with all kinds of scenarios that bear astronomical value, an astronomical amount of scenarios if you allow for astronomical low probability. Isn't this betting on infinity?

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 31 October 2010 01:53:35PM *  0 points [-]

As I said, explanations exist. Don't confuse with actual good understanding, which as far as I know nobody managed to attain yet.

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 31 October 2010 06:25:07PM -2 points [-]

Again, I don't think this terminology is adequate.

Let's not dwell on terminology, where the denoted concepts remain much more urgently unclear.

Comment author: Perplexed 31 October 2010 06:50:24PM 2 points [-]

Would you please consider offering an opinion as to whether Porter or Xixidu is anywhere close to describing the denoted concept?

Comment author: timtyler 31 October 2010 12:18:46PM *  4 points [-]

Having such beliefs with absolute certainty is incorrect, we don't have sufficient understanding for that, but weak beliefs multiplied by astronomical value lead to the same drastic actions, whose cost-benefit analysis doesn't take notice of small inconveniences such as being perceived to be crazy.

The unabomber performed some "drastic actions". I expect he didn't mind if he was "perceived to be crazy" by others - although he didn't want to plead insanity.