PhilGoetz comments on Ben Goertzel: The Singularity Institute's Scary Idea (and Why I Don't Buy It) - Less Wrong

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Comment author: PhilGoetz 07 November 2010 07:20:29PM *  0 points [-]

If your definition of complexity says noise is complexity, then you need a new definition of complexity.

Yes, many useful definitions, like entropy measures or Kolmogorov complexity, say noise is complexity. But people studying complexity recognize that this is a problem. They are aware that the phenomenon they're trying to get at when they say "complexity" is something different.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 07 November 2010 07:31:53PM 0 points [-]

They are aware that the phenomenon they're trying to get at when they say "complexity" is something different.

And that concept of "complexity" is probably too complex to be captured by a fundamental notions such as K-complexity.