Vladimir_Nesov comments on Goals for which Less Wrong does (and doesn't) help - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 23 November 2010 11:33:48PM *  2 points [-]

(As an out-of-context remark.)

"...but if I am wrong about WMDs, then I agree that the war is unjust."

Under the assumption that existence of WMDs justifies the war, the war was justified if the decision-makers believed that WMDs probably existed, as a result of a honest attempt to discern the truth. Whether WMDs actually existed is wholly irrelevant, except as evidence about state of knowledge of the decision-makers at the time.

(The decision to pull out of the war based on new evidence is a separate question, since situation is different.)

Comment author: Aurini 24 November 2010 12:17:10AM 0 points [-]

Except then you'd be right demanding they state something like "You were right, the war was unjustified; perhaps we need better monitoring of our leaders. My current stance is that the war should be continued for reasons X."

There are smart people who held consistent pro-war opinions, granted - personally I'm trying not to take a stance on the war itself, in this situation - but the majority are chock full of cognitive dissonance.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 24 November 2010 12:19:02AM *  0 points [-]

There are certainly many problems associated with any heated debate. I only addressed one point (so your reply is not to me; at least, I didn't understand a single point you made in it, so perhaps something in there was intended to be on the point I addressed).

Comment author: Aurini 24 November 2010 05:17:13AM -1 points [-]

This is why I need to write a proper article about this. My first post was only a short hand sketch, which now leaves me feeling like the reverse-Homer Simpson ("Sorry if it SOUNDED sarcastic)."

:)