Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on Rational Me or We? - Less Wrong

116 Post author: RobinHanson 17 March 2009 01:39PM

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Comment author: Yvain 18 March 2009 02:10:52PM *  9 points [-]

By principle of charity, I interpret Marshall as saying not that rationalists can't be kind, but that rationalism alone doesn't make you kind. Judging by my informal torture vs. pie experiments, I find this to be true. Rationality is necessary but not sufficient for a friendly world. We also need people who value the right kind of things. Rationality can help clarify and amplify morality, but it's got to start from pre-rational sources. Until further research is done, I suggest making everyone watch a lot of Thundercats and seeing whether that helps :)

Of course, like with every use of the principle of charity, I might just be reading too much into a statement that really was stupid.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 18 March 2009 06:17:12PM -1 points [-]

By the principle of accuracy, I look up Marshall's other comments: http://lesswrong.com/user/Marshall/

Marshall doesn't have to be voted down for being wrong. He can be voted down for using an applause light and being vague.

Comment author: Annoyance 18 March 2009 08:15:23PM 2 points [-]

"Marshall doesn't have to be voted down for being wrong. He can be voted down for using an applause light and being vague."

So can Eliezer_Yudkowsky.

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Comment author: topynate 18 March 2009 08:09:49PM 0 points [-]

"I have no wish to be a member of a club, who will not have me."

This is not the case. You've made over 30 comments; it's trivial for an individual to swing your karma by large amounts. I note that your karma has made large swings in the ~30 minutes I've been considering this reply. If you want to discuss the group dynamics of LW then I have more to say, but I'm going to request (temporarily) that you don't accuse me of groupthink or status seeking if you do.