Mass_Driver comments on Cheat codes - Less Wrong

36 Post author: sketerpot 01 December 2010 09:19PM

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Comment author: Mass_Driver 03 December 2010 04:00:33PM 9 points [-]

Well, since you mentioned expert violinists...most people find that guitar is alarmingly easy to learn once they sit down with it. With a 1 hour lesson per week and 30 minutes of practice 3 times a week for 10 weeks, most people can get to the point where they are affirmatively entertaining -- much more fun to listen to than silence or small talk. Being able to play an instrument reasonably well is good for making friends, impressing people, expressing emotions, achieving flow, and improving self-esteem.

Unless you're a perfectionist, extremely busy, or extremely lazy, you will probably find that after the first 5 hours or so of time-investment, both the lessons and the practice can be a lot of fun -- you don't have to follow a rigid system; you can just see interesting techniques used and then copy whichever ones interest you as best you can, and music comes out.

Comment author: Benquo 20 June 2011 09:18:53PM 3 points [-]

Is this specific to the guitar, or does it apply to some other instruments as well?

Comment author: Mass_Driver 21 June 2011 01:00:28AM 2 points [-]

There are probably some other instruments it works for, but it does not seem to work that way for most classical symphony instruments, e.g. trumpet, clarinet, viola, etc.

Comment author: Benquo 21 June 2011 02:12:07AM 7 points [-]

It seems as if the guitar benefits from these qualities:

  • Sufficient tonal depth to sustain a melody (i.e. not a drum)
  • Sufficient harmonic depth to be a solo instrument
  • Since it's a "plucking" instrument (rather than blowing or bowing) it's less sensitive to the quality of the musician's touch - an amateur can play a single note almost as well as a professional

Am I missing some crucial element? It looks like these attributes are not all present in the drum, trumpet, clarinet, viola, &c., but are all present in the piano, harpsichord, harp, &c. Maybe piano, harp, and harpsichord are all more difficult to learn than the guitar?

Comment author: Mass_Driver 21 June 2011 02:44:38PM 3 points [-]

That's a good analysis, and the harp and electronic keyboard are both easy instruments to learn. I would add that the guitar also allows for:

  • nearly mindless strumming that will still produce many interesting variations on popular chords

To get, e..g, different kinds of E Major sounds on a piano, you have to remember the finger shape for E Major and move it the correct number of spaces up and down the keys. To get that on a guitar, you just move one hand rapidly back and forth, hitting different strings at random. Maybe you occasionally release a finger on your nondominant hand.

Comment author: Peterdjones 21 June 2011 03:43:52PM 3 points [-]

Out of the instruments that are usable for both melody/soloing and harmony/accompaniment, the guitar family has the clinching virtues of being cheap and portable. Like keyboard instruments it is also applicable to virtually any genre of music. K/b instruments are more suited to complex material (hence their use in composition), whereas the guitar family allows more expression than instruments that are essentially controlled by switches.

These advantages entail one overriding disadvantage: ever other bugger plays one. So it is proportionally harder to get into a band or college. If you want gigs,play something cumbersome, like drums, double bass or euphonium.

Comment author: David_Gerard 11 February 2012 08:50:07AM *  2 points [-]
  • Rock, pop and folk music, the things guitars are popularly used for, are quite simple, so you don't need to be able to play well at all to get music out of the thing. (Think how many punk rock bands could literally hardly play when they started. "Here's one chord, here's two more, now form your own band.") Also, you can get a guitar and amp that are good enough for your whole career way cheaper than the typical good classical instrument.