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--Chip Heath & Dan Heath, Switch: How To Change Things When Change Is Hard, pg 181
I like this and agree with the sentiment, but I suspect it's not quite true as stated.
At least, I can enjoy watching someone build a structure out of a pile of wood, even though I don't attribute any kind of fundamental pile-nature to the wood and am not shocked by that nature being subverted... I just enjoy watching someone exercise skill. I can imagine enjoying watching a skilled behavior-modification expert construct cooperation out of conflict in the same way.