CarlShulman comments on You're Calling *Who* A Cult Leader? - Less Wrong

45 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 22 March 2009 06:57AM

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Comment author: CarlShulman 22 March 2009 04:44:02PM 6 points [-]

And that you care only about the benefits you confer, not the log of the benefits, or your ability to visualize someone benefited by your action, etc.

Comment author: ciphergoth 24 March 2009 01:19:37PM 3 points [-]

I don't see how either of these affect this result - unless you're saying it's easier to visualise one person with clean water and another with a malaria net than it is two people with clean water?

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 09 August 2009 05:57:15AM 3 points [-]

it's easier to visualise one person with clean water and another with a malaria net than it is two people with clean water?

The sum of the affect raised is greater.

Comment author: ciphergoth 10 August 2009 08:47:41AM 0 points [-]

I don't understand I'm afraid, can you unpack that a bit please? Thanks.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 10 August 2009 12:03:15PM 5 points [-]

Consider scope insensitivity. The amount of "warm fuzzies" one gets from helping X numbers of individuals with a given problem does not scale even remotely linearly with X. Different actions to help with distinct problems, however, sum in a much closer to linear fashion (at least up to some point).

Ergo, "one person with clean water and another with a malaria net" feels intuitively like you're doing more than "two people with clean water".

Comment author: orthonormal 10 August 2009 08:57:22PM 1 point [-]

Ergo, "one person with clean water and another with a malaria net" feels intuitively like you're doing more than "two people with clean water".

Well, not when you compare them against each other, but only when each is considered on its own: it's like this phenomenon.

Comment author: arundelo 10 August 2009 12:30:43PM 1 point [-]

I think it means: the sum of the feel-good points of giving one person clean water and another a malaria net will, for most people, be higher than the feel-good points of giving two people clean water.

Comment author: ciphergoth 02 April 2009 03:49:32PM *  2 points [-]

I'd like to get right whatever it is I'm doing wrong here, so if anyone would like to comment on any problems they see with this or the parent comment (which are both scored 0) I'd be grateful for your input.

EDIT: since this was voted down, but I didn't receive an explanation, I'm assuming it's just an attack, and so I don't need to modify what I do - thanks!

Comment author: Anatoly_Vorobey 22 March 2009 05:14:45PM 1 point [-]

I suspect that the ability to visualize someone benefited by your action is often a proxy for being certain that your action actually helped someone, and that people often place additional value on that certainty. They might not be acting as perfectly rational economic agents in such cases, but I'm not sure I'd call such behavior irrational.