Vladimir_Nesov comments on Philosophy: A Diseased Discipline - Less Wrong

88 Post author: lukeprog 28 March 2011 07:31PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 28 March 2011 09:35:46PM 2 points [-]

justification bottoms out in the lens that can see its flaws

This statement seems misleading, since justification doesn't actually "hit bottom", doesn't stop. For contrast, a quotation from the post:

So what I did in practice, does not amount to declaring a sudden halt to questioning and justification. I'm not halting the chain of examination at the point that I encounter Occam's Razor, or my brain, or some other unquestionable. The chain of examination continues - but it continues, unavoidably, using my current brain and my current grasp on reasoning techniques.

Comment author: SilasBarta 28 March 2011 09:51:41PM 1 point [-]

I think that sentence was written just to include the names of the articles when linking them, not because it should be taken literally.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 28 March 2011 10:01:51PM 1 point [-]

I don't expect Luke misunderstood the posts in question to the point of making this error, so I'm not talking about his intention behind writing the statement. I'm merely pointing out that, as written, it's somewhat misleading, whatever the circumstances that shaped it.

Comment author: lukeprog 28 March 2011 10:30:16PM 1 point [-]

I'm struggling to come up with a very quick way to say this more accurately in the post. Can you think of anything?

Comment author: Vaniver 28 March 2011 10:48:46PM 2 points [-]

Does "justification rests in the lens that can see its flaws" work?

Comment author: lukeprog 29 March 2011 01:48:04AM 1 point [-]

I chose this one, thanks.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 28 March 2011 11:00:07PM 1 point [-]

Say, "The process of justification should never stop, not even flaws in the lens itself are to be overlooked."