Annoyance comments on Why *I* fail to act rationally - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Annoyance 26 March 2009 07:10:01PM 0 points [-]

Yes!

It's the only empirically-effective talking therapy there is.

Depending on how the standards are set, it's also the only effective psychiatric intervention, period. Manipulating symptoms is nice but not nearly enough.

Comment author: thomblake 02 April 2009 05:15:10PM 1 point [-]

The jury's still out, but EMDR seems promising - it's questionable whether the eye movements are necessary, but it seems to perform as well as CBT.

Comment author: pjeby 02 April 2009 05:52:10PM 3 points [-]

Actually, in one study, TFT beat out EMDR, but then one of the researchers came up with a hypothesis to explain the effectiveness of TFT, EMDR, TIR, and the NLP V/KD technique... and designed something even better:

After the research study was over, there was much persuasive argument from each of the proponents of the brief therapy methods represented. In a later NLP workshop, Ed Reese challenged me to test the hypothesis of pattern destabilization. I proposed that any stimuli capable of affecting a perturbation in visual, auditory, and kinesthetic modes simultaneously would prove to be as effective in eliminating a traumatic experience as TFT, even without the use of their complex algorithms. The stimuli that I proposed to test the hypothesis with was a game readily found in all children's toy stores called Simon.

Comment author: ciphergoth 26 March 2009 08:34:15PM 0 points [-]

The research shows that not all of the efficacy of the drugs is down to the placebo effect.

Comment author: Annoyance 26 March 2009 08:54:49PM 0 points [-]

Certainly drugs have effects. Whether the effects of the drugs are really a help is questionable.

There are a few conditions that people usually just can't cope with without drugs, even though the drugs have serious downsides. Lithium is a godsend for manic depression, despite it being quite dangerous - but considering how effectively repeatedly cycling is for people's lives, it's worth the risk.