Kaj_Sotala comments on Contests vs. Real World Problems - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Kaj_Sotala 25 March 2009 08:26:13PM *  9 points [-]

Related to the Nazi experiments, there are people in the scientific community who argue that they should not be cited, even in case where they provided valuable information:

Although it is difficult morally, one might concede that within the mass of pseudoscientifc Nazi data some shreds can be valuable to researchers, as a small portion of the hypothermia data has proven to be. Of course, such data should be used only in the most exceptional circumstances and only in the absence of ethically derived data.

This seems absurd. The experiments were horrid and reprehensible, no question - but if they provided useful data, shouldn't we try to salvage at least something good from their deeds?

Comment author: CarlShulman 25 March 2009 08:44:51PM *  6 points [-]

A policy against it may provide some marginal disincentive to future scientists under vile regimes.

Edit: of course the real cause of the objection is just 'moral contamination,' the same trigger-happy associational neural machinery used to avoid poisonous foods attaches negative affect to anything associated with the Nazis. But the heuristic can sometimes be useful, just as our cooperative emotions can be hacks to implement binding commitments.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 26 March 2009 12:20:23AM 5 points [-]

If we assume those scientists actually care about their future number of citations, then yes.

Comment author: taw 26 March 2009 12:15:09AM 1 point [-]

How likely is it to be a result of genuine reasoning leading to this conclusion, and how likely is it to be just a rationalization of the yuck factor? It seems pretty straightforward.