Vladimir_Nesov comments on Spock's Dirty Little Secret - Less Wrong

46 Post author: pjeby 25 March 2009 07:07PM

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Comment author: pjeby 25 March 2009 10:08:30PM 4 points [-]

You're moving pretty quickly, though, and I have trouble following you at some areas. Maybe in the future break large essays like this into a few blog posts, one for each sub-point.

Heh. This is a way scaled-back version of my original planned first post, which was to jump straight from motivated reasoning into either the Speculator/Savant divide, or the Towards/Away distinctions. I went, "crap, this is getting too long" and pulled the plug before I got to anything really "interesting", figuring that this one at least laid a little bit of groundwork and some references to build a foundation for the rest.

I'm accustomed to being able to get further in one sitting, but that's because my usual writing isn't peppered with references to experimental results and tediously building my case point by point; usually I just rely on metaphor and people's personal experiences as evidence. Here, though, I've noticed that people prefer authorities in the form of citations, to looking at their own personal experiences... so it seems to take a hell of a lot longer to build up statements of any substance.

Which is not to say it's not worth it... discussions on LW, and the preparation for this post, have helped me immensely clarify and simplify certain aspects of my knowledge and work, in ways that will help me teach my self-improvement audience better, not just communicate better on LW.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 25 March 2009 10:55:47PM 0 points [-]

I'm accustomed to being able to get further in one sitting, but that's because my usual writing isn't peppered with references to experimental results and tediously building my case point by point; usually I just rely on metaphor and people's personal experiences as evidence. Here, though, I've noticed that people prefer authorities in the form of citations, to looking at their own personal experiences... so it seems to take a hell of a lot longer to build up statements of any substance.

Now this sounds like some kind of ritual, empty of substance. Authority? Give me a break.

Comment author: pjeby 25 March 2009 11:05:58PM *  0 points [-]

You seem to be ignoring the part where I implied your previous challenge led to me learning some new things about affective synchrony, that explained some of my results more clearly and gave me some new ideas to experiment with.

As I said, it was worth it, at least for me.