DavidM comments on The benefits of madness: A positive account of arationality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DavidM 25 April 2011 08:44:46PM 22 points [-]

I'm a newly registered member of LW (long-time lurker) and was thinking of posting about this very topic. Like many in the community, I have a background in science / math / philosophy, but unlike many, I have also spent many years working to understand what Jasen calls the "Buddhist claim" experientially (i.e. through meditation) and being involved with the contemporary traditions that emphasize attaining that understanding. I see myself as an "insider" straddling both communities, well-situated to talk about what Buddhists are going on about regarding "self" and "not-self" and enlightenment in a way that would be highly comprehensible to people who frame the world in a contemporary scientific way.

Specifically, I was considering a three-part series along these lines:

1) Highly abridged history of Buddhist thought concerning "insight" meditation and the insight into "no-self"; overview of contemporary secular traditions focusing on attaining this insight. Risks and benefits of pursuing it.

2) Case study: Have 1500 years of Buddhist tradition yielded a novel testable model of an aspect of human psychological development?

3) How science has dropped the ball concerning research on meditation and "spirituality"; how some communities of meditators have come to know more about meditation than scientists do; some thoughts on why; some thoughts on how this could be changed.

However, I don't want to pre-empt anyone's post (in particular Jasen's, since he mentioned it), and also, I don't know the extent to which this is an interesting topic to LW-ers, or what the community norms are for newly-registered members initiating new posts. So I'd like to get some sense of whether people here would like to see posts on this topic, and in particular, what Jasen thinks about the prospect of me posting.

Comment author: atucker 26 April 2011 03:36:04AM 2 points [-]

Welcome!

Please do this. I'm interested.

From the FAQ:

You are allowed to write a top-level article once you have at least twenty karma. You should write a top-level article if you have twenty karma, you have an important point to make about rationality, and you're familiar enough with the sequences that you don't think you're making a simple mistake.

Comment author: DavidM 26 April 2011 04:27:47PM 4 points [-]

Thanks for pointing the rule about karma out to me. I've got 10 points so far, 10 more to go...

Comment author: Jasen 26 April 2011 03:25:23AM 2 points [-]

Awesome, I'm very interested in sharing notes, particular since you've been practicing meditation a lot longer than I have.

I'd love to chat with you on Skype if you have the time. Feel free to send me an email at jasen@intelligence.org if you'd like to schedule a time.

Comment author: DavidM 26 April 2011 04:26:49PM 1 point [-]

Great, I'll send you an email in a day or two (things are rather busy on my end, apologies) and we'll work something out!

Comment author: bbleeker 26 April 2011 01:25:39PM 0 points [-]

I'm very interested too!