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Not entire mental states, but emotional states, and the states aren't consciously remembered, but triggered like reflex behaviors. The suggested exercise is basically classical conditioning, except that one doesn't have to figure out what the unconditioned stimulus is in order to associate the response (the emotional state) with the conditioned stimulus (tapping oneself with a finger).
Ah. Not sure what could be used as a baseline or how to detect it thou. And extinction would be a huge problem.
Sorry, i thought the anecdote would be more explanatory then the old Pascal's one that i grew up with :(
Extinction is best prevented by reinforcing the stimuli randomly, its like in a casino, a random reward is much more enticing then a pattern reinforcement. Basically, you just pick a random day that went well and run your mental macro/hand motion while relishing in the memory/emotion of the day. As for baseline, if you don't notice it after about 5-7 times worth of training your brain on different memory's over the course of about a week then it probably wont work for you. Just remember to use variable interval reinforcement to prevent extinction and pick a hand motion that feels simple, but unobtrusive to do in public.
The "pick a random day that went well and ... relishing in the memory/emotion of the day" part is problematic for multiple reasons.
(also, does that kind of conditioning really work with that kind of thing?)
The majority of the literature on it debunks it as not very useful.. but i noticed positive effects when i self tested the theory. If you have an inspiring or happy moment come up feel free to start testing it, i just felt like the majority of my other suggestions weren't very useful because i didn't know your living situation and this was my personal psychotherapy tool for a while.
Sounds like placebo.
I feel like the majority of our emotions are heavily influenced by the placebo effect, but some people do require the occasional SSRI as well. Relationships are the best example of this, one word can have an immeasurable emotional effect if mentally misconstrued incorrectly.
If it's the placebo effect, and I start out believing it's only the placebo effect and it's not gonna work on me, it's not gonna work on me.
If I didn't have the problem I could just cure everything to the maximal ability of any placebo effect to handle by tying my mind in a knot and then blinking.