Alexei comments on Richard Dawkins on vivisection: "But can they suffer?" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Alexei 04 July 2011 07:22:46PM -2 points [-]

I've been thinking about this issue and to answer you question: "So where do we draw the line?", I think the answer is the following:

Take a group of creatures (humans, dogs, etc...) and let them live in a rich environment for a very very very long time. Graph the intelligence of individual creatures over time. If it's not overall consistently increasing, then this creature isn't smart enough to worry about.

Some things I wonder about: do all humans (or creatures I would want to classify as humans) pass this test? What animals/non-humans pass this test?

Comment author: endoself 04 July 2011 07:31:15PM 10 points [-]

Hold off on proposing solutions!

You provide an answer fully-formed with no account of how you arrived at it and without providing reasons for others to accept it. Even if you did come up with this through a valid procedure, you aren't providing evidence of having done so.