Lila comments on Richard Dawkins on vivisection: "But can they suffer?" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lila 05 July 2011 02:19:49PM 0 points [-]

I don't intuit any particular correlation between suffering and intelligence. I am not on board with Bentham's idea that capacity for suffering is what counts, morally speaking. It's not intelligence but sapience that I find morally significant.

Comment author: syllogism 07 July 2011 01:53:42AM 3 points [-]

So the vivisection experiments would be okay, to your mind, even if all the experimenter got out of them was amusement?

You should be careful declaring that you ascribe literally zero moral weight to non-human animals. It doesn't match up with most people's moral intuitions well at all.

There also exist a lot of non-"sapient" humans, as birth defects and brain damage give us a fair continuum of humans with different mental capacities to think about.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 07 July 2011 04:48:22AM *  2 points [-]

How is sapience different from intelligence? What do you think it means?