Will_Newsome comments on Richard Dawkins on vivisection: "But can they suffer?" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Will_Newsome 07 July 2011 05:18:07PM 5 points [-]

Thank you for your helpful response. It would take a long time to explain the psychology involved on my part, but I do indeed have a fairly thorough understanding of the social psychology involved on the part of others. Sometimes I legitimately expect persons to understand what I am saying and am surprised when they do not, but most often I do not anticipate that folk will understand what I am saying and am unsurprised when they do not. I often comment anyway for three reasons. First, because it would be prohibitively motivationally expensive for me to fully explain each point, and yet I figure there's some non-negligible chance that someone will find something I say to be interesting despite the lack of clarity. Second, because I can use the little bit of motivation I get from the thought of someone potentially getting some insight from something I say, as inspiration to write some of my thoughts down, which I usually find very psychologically taxing. Third, because of some sort of unvirtuous passive-aggression or frustration caused by people being uncharitable in interpreting me, and thus a desire to defect in communication as repayment. The latter comes from a sort of contempt, 'cuz I've been working on my rationalist skillz for a while now as a sort of full-time endeavor and I can see many ways in which Less Wrong is deficient. I am completely aware that such contempt--like all contempt--is useless and possibly inaccurate in many ways. I might start cutting back on my Less Wrong commenting soon. I have an alternative account where I make only clear and high quality comments, I might as well just use that one only. Again, thanks for taking the time to give feedback.

Comment author: jsalvatier 07 July 2011 06:21:57PM 3 points [-]

I'd be very interested in seeing posts on specifics on how LW is deficient/could improve.

Comment author: Nick_Tarleton 07 July 2011 06:50:00PM 2 points [-]

Third, because of some sort of unvirtuous passive-aggression or frustration caused by people being uncharitable in interpreting me, and thus a desire to defect in communication as repayment.

You know this causes them to defect in turn by actively not-trying to understand you, right?

Comment author: Will_Newsome 07 July 2011 06:59:01PM 0 points [-]

Of course. "I do indeed have a fairly thorough understanding of the social psychology involved on the part of others."

Comment author: jsalvatier 07 July 2011 06:03:36PM *  0 points [-]

Interesting. Good context to have.

I would expect such contempt to be actively harmful to you (in that people will like you and listen to you less).

I hope I did not come off as adversarial.