Jack comments on The Cognitive Science of Rationality - Less Wrong

88 Post author: lukeprog 12 September 2011 08:48PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 11 September 2011 03:29:21PM 1 point [-]

Epistemic rationality is about forming true beliefs, about getting the map in your head to accurately reflect the world out there.

Since the map describes itself as well, not just the parts of the world other than the map, and being able to reason about the relationship of the map and the world is crucial in the context of epistemic rationality, I object to including the "out there" part in the quoted sentence. The map in your head should accurately reflect the world, not just the part of the world that's "out there".

Comment author: Jack 11 September 2011 03:46:35PM 0 points [-]

I don't think "out there" is meant to exclude the map itself- its metaphorical language.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 11 September 2011 03:50:49PM 0 points [-]

But it can be taken as meaning to exclude the mind. I'm clearly not arguing with Luke's intended meaning, so the intended meaning is irrelevant to this issue, only possible interpretations of the text as written.

Comment author: Jack 11 September 2011 04:08:35PM 2 points [-]

(Nods and shrugs) Is there a way to make the point both accurately and simply? The whole thing is a mess of recursive reference.