ciphergoth comments on Open Thread: April 2009 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ciphergoth 04 April 2009 01:17:41PM 3 points [-]

If it's not silly to comment with this: am I commenting too much? None of the comments on the first page of my profile are scored up, so looking at my high karma I guess I'm making a lot of comments, and they're not all hits. Should I cut back?

Comment author: steven0461 04 April 2009 05:05:48PM 5 points [-]

No need to worry if you're not regularly getting downvoted, if you ask me.

Comment author: robzahra 04 April 2009 02:09:13PM 2 points [-]

Just read your last 5 comments and they looked useful to me, including most with 1 karma point. I would keep posting whenever you have information to add, and take actual critiques in replies to your comments much more seriously than lack of karma. Hope this helps.. Rob zahra

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 April 2009 04:38:48PM 1 point [-]

Not by my book.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 06 April 2009 05:51:49AM 2 points [-]

I am trying to imagine some possible reason why someone downvoted EY's 4-word comment, and failing. Back up it goes.

Comment author: MrHen 07 April 2009 06:47:16PM 1 point [-]

Perhaps he did not vote it up himself?

Comment author: AlanCrowe 13 April 2009 01:44:15PM 1 point [-]

One of the arguments for having a karma system is so that posters don't have to self-censor. With no karma system, posters have to spend time worry about being polite and not hogging the discussion, and maybe worthwhle comments fail to get made, lost either to self-censorship or running out of time. Given the lack of social clues, body language, facial expressions, etc, on a discussion board like this you could spend a great deal of time worring to no useful effect.

Commenting can be pretty addictive. I predict (confidence 30%) that within two months you will be hooked but will have run out of things to say. So you will start posting crap comments and, after a period of grace, get hammered with a lot of almost automatic down votes. Shrug. That's life. It might be nice it you can avoid this, but it is not that important in the great scheme of things, so don't try too hard nor care too deeply if you screw up.

Comment author: ciphergoth 13 April 2009 01:52:00PM 0 points [-]

I'm actually happier commenting now that zero-based karma is here - before that, I worried that prolific commenting would be karma whoring.

I have quite a lot left to say at the moment; I want to start talking about how we can start talking about politics.

Comment author: AlanCrowe 13 April 2009 02:07:08PM 1 point [-]

Politics? Tricky!

I'm trying to compose a top-level post about mining politics for logic-smells. The idea is that if you take your opponents political arguments and extract the errors, you can abstract them a little to get bad-argument templates that you can apply to your own thought, testing to see if you are making a similar mistake. But how to write this to bring out the meta-level point and not simply start an object level quarrel?

Comment author: whpearson 21 April 2009 09:37:18PM 1 point [-]

Use a hypothetical country, but map real world arguments to it in a way it is non obvious what the real issue is? Perhaps the pebble sorters could make a comeback.

Comment author: MichaelBishop 04 April 2009 03:33:20PM 1 point [-]

I certainly don't think so, according to my vision for lesswrong, but if you are - then I definitely am.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 04 April 2009 04:07:22PM *  6 points [-]

It seems to me unreasonable to expect that a significant fraction of comments should be voted up. A bit of chatter helps clarify topics and build community, but voting up every non-disruptive comment would only serve to dilute the informational value of an upvote.

Comment author: ciphergoth 04 April 2009 04:36:38PM 0 points [-]

absolutely, i mention karma mainly as a rough measure of my comment volume. I'm not unhappy with my upvote rate.

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Comment author: ciphergoth 22 April 2009 10:46:46AM 0 points [-]

I posted it from my phone, for goodness sake!

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Comment author: infotropism 21 April 2009 09:47:25PM 0 points [-]

So a lack of captials deserves a downvote ?

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Comment author: infotropism 21 April 2009 10:00:20PM 0 points [-]

Be that as it may be, what is a captial ? I understand the need for proper grammar and orthography in our dear garden, but there's something intriguing going on there :-)

Comment author: steven0461 21 April 2009 10:10:11PM 1 point [-]

Agreed. First it's just missing captials, then next thing you know weird spaces appear around question marks.

Comment author: Emile 22 April 2009 01:16:55PM *  1 point [-]

In France, we have different spacing conventions, we put spaces before !, ? and ;

(Still, when writing in english, we should use the english convention. Otherwise the German will start capitalizing nouns, and God knows what the American will do)

Comment author: infotropism 21 April 2009 10:15:41PM 0 points [-]

Don't you find it more aesthetically appealing that way ? Also, I'm French :-)

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Comment author: thomblake 22 April 2009 07:10:47PM 1 point [-]

For reference, the joking exchange was in reference to 'captials', not 'capitals'.

Comment author: MBlume 15 April 2009 05:35:23AM 0 points [-]

you've passed me since the auto-upvote was turned off, so if one of us needs to worry about this, it's me.

Comment author: ciphergoth 15 April 2009 11:01:33AM *  0 points [-]

Well I certainly haven't got the impression you're commenting too much, and looking at your comment history I think you're adding to the site, so I wouldn't worry.