smoofra comments on Formalizing Newcomb's - Less Wrong

18 Post author: cousin_it 05 April 2009 03:39PM

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Comment author: smoofra 05 April 2009 06:24:33PM 0 points [-]

I have a very strong feeling that way 3 is not possible. It seems that any scanning/analysis procedure detailed enough to predict your actions constitutes simulating you.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 05 April 2009 08:12:50PM 2 points [-]

I have a very strong feeling that way 3 is not possible. It seems that any scanning/analysis procedure detailed enough to predict your actions constitutes simulating you.

I predict that you will not, in the next 24 hours, choose to commit suicide.

Am I simulating you?

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 05 April 2009 08:40:23PM 0 points [-]

You can always change the problem so that it stops making sense, or that the answer gets reversed. But this is not the point, you should seek to understand what the intent was as clearly as possible.

If an argument attacks your long-held belief, make the argument stronger, help it to get through. If you were right, the argument will fail, but you ought to give it the best chance you can.

Comment author: Annoyance 05 April 2009 06:52:25PM 0 points [-]

Not necessarily. It could be purely empirical in nature. No insight into how the detected signals causally relate to the output is required.

Comment author: cousin_it 05 April 2009 06:29:09PM *  0 points [-]

I feel the same, but would have been dishonest to omit it. Even 4 sounds more likely to me than 3.