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This is still a benevolent dictatorship.
I hope that answers your question.
That is TrikeApps understanding too - we pay for and maintain the servers, but we do so for Eliezer and SIAI, don't consider ourselves to have a moral right to use the practical powers we have, and generally do what Eliezer tells us to do.
So a longer form answer that completely agrees with Eliezer's claim above is…
We care about what the LW community wants, and if we thought Eliezer was being too much of a dick we could be driven to resign, but if we did that we'd carefully and responsibly hand control back to Eliezer and SIAI first. And he'd have to be a lot more of a dick than he occasionally appears to be.
http://www.whois.net/whois/lesswrong.com, but the moral right is SIAI's (in a fairly well documented way).
Open Source, forked from the Reddit codebase. See https://github.com/tricycle/lesswrong/blob/master/LICENSE.
TrikeApps and TrikeApps, but for SIAI/Eliezer.
There are practical powers TrikeApps hold, but we reserve only the right to withhold our labour, and only that after handing back practical control to Eliezer/SIAI.
... demonstrably friendly dictatorship? :)
Past friendliness is weak evidence of future friendliness isn't it?
For readers who, like me, have an immediate Ugh reaction to That Sort Of Thing... Well-Kept Gardens Die By Pacifism.
False dilemma
I meant the link as a treatment for immediate Ugh reactions to That Sort Of Thing, which might cause one to immediately reject benevolent dictatorship, not a definitive argument in favour of benevolent dictatorship.
Very good then!
For online communities I have a warm fuzzy feeling about dictatorships in general, so I missed that. It's just that it is suboptimal here.
No, it isn't that simple.
All this could have been avoided if you had merely deigned to discuss the wiki post in question with me. I shouldn't have to make a discussion post on LessWrong to get your attention. I believe that we deserve to be treated with respect. Deleting my comments, then refusing to discuss it, then coming here and saying "I am still dictator" without even enunciating any policy for the wiki, and thinking that's the end of it, is not treating us with respect.
If the policy is "Eliezer will do whatever he pleases", I respectfully request that you put that on the home page of the wiki.
If this happened every day, I could understand that you were tired, and weary of the burden of overseeing the wiki. But apparently it's only happened once in two years. Furthermore, I've contributed about a hundred posts to LessWrong, some of which were good. I'm not some random newbie who made an account and started editing the Wiki.
I don't really care about the wiki. It's about respect. After spending a thousand hours providing content for your website, I'd like to get at least a little.
An excellent argument for PhilGoetz not having any ability to edit the wiki.
An excellent example of taking a quote out of context.
The context was about editing the wiki. If you have a complaint that stems from editing behavior on the wiki, and it comes to be known that you don't really care about the wiki, then I don't need to read any further; I've located the problem.
And in general, if you care more about something like respect than doing a good job, then you shouldn't have that job anymore. Even (especially?) if you were doing it for free. Your ego has no place in our wiki. Well, it has one place.