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So... nobody wants to try writing the 'Informal Fallacies as Errors in Bayesian Reasoning' post?
But that paper is so badass!
I spent a few hours last night read through the material and writing down some general ideas. However, I soon felt like I was "faking it" when it came to the math. That was a red light for me to stop. I don't think I understand enough of the mathematics to explain it well. I wanted to say this asap so I don't prevent anyone else from tackling a problem they think I'm already working on.
Instead, if no one else has already written it, I may turn my attention to the post on Motivational Externalism. That also a topic I'm interested in, as well as one that is less math-intensive. Is that topic still open, Luke?
Thanks for posting this notice.
As for motivational externalism: as far as I know, nobody is developing that post. Go for it! If you need help, I'm happy to point you to the right review articles, but I probably can't help more than that. The review article I link to above is the best starting place.
You're welcome.
Thanks for the encouragement! I'm reading the review article you linked to right now. I'm also reading your advice on writing. (Must. Remember. Short. Sentences.)
I understand that your ability to help is limited. You're a very busy guy doing very important work. And I don't say that to blow smoke.
But when you have the time, I'd definitely appreciate if you could point me toward the right review articles.
I'll wait for you to finish the one review article above, and then ask me questions.
I finished the review article Schroeder et al. (2010). Based on it, this is my sketch of my tentative outline:
I have many questions. But for now. I'll restrain myself to the three most important ones.
Does this outline reflect what you had in mind? I read that this topic is necessary for your Metaethics sequence. I want to save you the time of writing this yourself so you can focus on topics I can't. Division of labor and such. In order for that to work, I need to make sure that I'm targeting the specific questions you would have otherwise had to address.
How in-depth should I get with the neuroscience? I want to aim low with my explanations. Illusion of transparency, large inferential gaps, etc. But I'm not sure how low is too low. Are they any useful heuristics for approximating when I need to go less in-depth? More in-depth?
The textbook Schroeder et al. (2010) uses as their primary reference for neuroscience is at least 10 years old. Are there other resources with more recent information I should be aware of? Any specific pieces of information that would be useful?
The outline looks perfect! And yes, the main problem with that article is that it is out of date with the neuroscience. I would begin instead with Neuroscience of Human Motivation and the sources it cites, and also Neuroscience of Preference and Choice, if you can get your hands on it.
Sounds great! Thanks for the quick response.
Do you have a PDF copy of Neuroscience of Preference and Choice? If not, do you know anyone who may? Would it be appropriate for me to ask in the discussion section? I've searched online before, but I haven't been able to find a (free) electronic version.
I only have a Kindle copy. The first two chapters are the most important. You could email each author and ask for a pre-print copy of their chapter.
I have a Kindle myself, so that's not a problem. If it's not an inconvenience, I'd appreciate it if you copied the file and sent it to me at:
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If you can't, I'll email the authors for a pre-print copy.
Actually, I would really love to write that! I've been looking really hard for said paper, assuming it had already been written by someone, somewhere. It is totally badass, and on a topic I'm really interested it.
To be honest, I'm just not sure if I have enough experience and information to write it, and to write it well. I'm willing to give it a shot, though. It's something important to try my hand at.
Do you (or anyone else) have any resources on hand that might be useful? Any advice? (On both the topic itself, and the writing process.)
lukeprog has done this sort of thing before, I think - but that "post" is not a post. It's a sequence!
I am trying to integrate fallacies as errors in Bayesian reasoning into the post I am writing on the principle of charity, the straw man fallacy, and the principle of humanity...it's a lot to think about, organize, and try to present coherently, and those three are a small subset of all the informal fallacies that there are.
For what I'm aiming for, I don't think a sequence is necessary. A lot of the groundwork on Bayesianism has already been laid elsewhere, so I am able to restrict my discussion to the following areas:
If I narrow my scope to these questions, I think I can give a satisfactory overview of the answers in one post. A more thorough investigation (which I perceive that you are aiming for) is valuable and very well might need its own sequence.
But for now, I'm trying to aim very low. I hope that in the future, someone writing that more comprehensive post can say:
Writing advice.