pedanterrific comments on Rhetoric for the Good - Less Wrong

49 Post author: lukeprog 26 October 2011 06:52PM

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Comment author: pedanterrific 25 October 2011 05:23:12AM *  2 points [-]

-31. Put the most impacting words at the end of a sentence.

Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this?

Comment author: timtyler 25 October 2011 06:30:54PM *  3 points [-]

-31. Put the most impacting words at the end of a sentence.

Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this?

You mean that the end of sentences should feature words with the biggest impact?

Comment author: ciphergoth 26 October 2011 09:55:48AM 2 points [-]

For example "The answer turns out to be A, not B" is usually better as "The answer turns out to be not B but A".

Comment author: TheOtherDave 26 October 2011 08:18:01PM 1 point [-]

And often still better as "The answer turns out to be A."
And sometimes even better as "The answer is A." And on occasion as "A."

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 25 October 2011 06:06:25AM 2 points [-]

How about

31b. Reserve the end of the sentence for what matters.

But then

It's you who's guilty.

The guilty person is you.

With the aid of explicit emphasis, I don't see any need.

Comment author: arundelo 25 October 2011 11:20:01PM 0 points [-]

I think "end" is the most important word here (though it maybe isn't the most "impacting"), and it is about as close to the end as it can be.

Comment author: pedanterrific 25 October 2011 11:27:16PM 1 point [-]

"When constructing sentences, put the most important word at the end."

But my initial point was mostly that "the most impacting words" is a really awkward and unclear construction. And I think the disagreement in the responses to my comment as to which word would be the "most impacting" (and precisely what that means) rather bears me out.

Comment author: arundelo 25 October 2011 11:42:41PM *  1 point [-]

I agree. (I mistook your point.)

Edit: Joseph Williams (who wrote Style: Lessons in Clarity and Grace, which lukeprog mentioned in the original post) has a subtler version of this rule:

Put at the end of your sentence the newest, the most surprising, the most significant information: information that you want to stress -- perhaps the information that you will expand on in your next sentence.

That's from page 48 of his Style: Toward Clarity and Grace, which I think blows Strunk and White out of the water. (I believe it's a different book from the one lukeprog mentioned, though if so I'm sure they cover similar material.)

Comment author: James_Miller 25 October 2011 01:52:57PM 0 points [-]

Often the best version of a sentence has the high impact word as either the first or last word of the sentence.